DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 19 May 2004 ============================================================= The DocBook Technical Committee met on Wednesday, 19 May 2004 at 05:00p EDT (02:00p PDT, 21:00GMT, 22:00BST, 23:00CEST, 06:00JST+, 02:30a India+) for 90 minutes. 1. Roll call Present: Steven Cogorno, Gary Cornelius, Adam Di Carlo, Paul Grosso, Nancy Harrison, Scott Hudson, Mark Johnson, Jirka Kosek, Larry Rowland, Mike Smith, Bob Stayton, Norman Walsh Absent: Dick Hamilton 2. Accepted the minutes[1] of the previous meeting 3. Next meeting: 16 June 2004. No regrets. 4. Review of the agenda. Treat 5c as an agenda item. 5. Review of open action items a. Mike to provide a better proposal for choicelist markup. CONTINUED. b. Mike to reconsider the annotation problem and post his thoughts. CONTINUED. c. Dick to examine the use of alt, possibly as part of the annotation discussion. COMPLETED. d. Norm to summarize the OASIS requirements document for the document management system and the ensuing discussion. OBSOLETE. e. Norm to complete the reference pages for the new 4.3 elements on the docbook.org site. NEARLY COMPLETED. f. Norm to publish flattened version of the 4.3 XML DTD. CONTINUED. g. Norm to post a reference to the paper written with Sebastian Rahtz regarding TEI. COMPLETED by Jirka: http://www.idealliance.org/papers/dx_xmle04/papers/03-08-01/03-08-01.html h. Norm to produce a draft spec of 5.0. CONTINUED. i. Norm to ask Karl about creating stable OASIS URIs. CONTINUED. j. Norm to investigate and propose where biblioref should be permitted. COMPLETED. k. Norm to suggest how to implement subscript and superscript inside gui* (maybe not using %smallcptr.class.mix). COMPLETED. l. Dick to determine if RFE 541444 "caption in mediaobjectco" is closed. CONTINUED. 5c. Alt text. This item originally was requesting adding a way to specify alt text for equations, but the discussion covered the use of alt text in other places as well. Larry (speaking for Dick) suggested looking at version 5.0 for adding an annotation feature, including merging footnote into an annotation with a footnote role attribute. Using textobject was one suggestion, but it can contain markup that might not work in an HTML alt value. One proposal is for an alt element that can contain only #PCDATA, and no markup. This would restrict it to plain text on data entry for use in an HTML attribute value. Mike thought that defining an element based on the restriction of current browsers was bad design. Why not let the processor convert it to plain text if needed? How many places would we need alt-like text? Nancy pointed out two basic needs for alt-like text: a) Limited-capability browsers. b) Accessibility for individuals with disabilities (section 508). ACTION: Larry to look into section 508 accessibility issues with DocBook elements. ACTION: Norm to contact Dave Pawson about accessibility issues. 6. Where is biblioref permitted? %xref.char.class is smaller than %link.char.class Norm proposed adding the new biblioref element wherever the xref element is permitted, since it is a specialized version of xref. ACCEPTED. 7. RFE 698026: cannot embed within Norm proposed explicitly adding subscript and superscript to each gui* element's content model. This was instead of adding it to the smallcptr.char.mix parameter entity, which would have added it to many elements. ACCEPTED. 8. DTD versions 4.3.1 and 4.4. Since we have several element and attribute changes, the committee decided to create a DTD version 4.4 instead of just a bug fix release 4.3.1. ACTION: Bob to review minutes for approved changes. ACTION: Norm to create a beta 4.4 DTD for the next meeting. 9. Request for canonical URIs for Docbook DTDs. [2] (carried forward from last month) Continued. 10. Review of Requests for Enhancement a. 698026 cannot embed within (see agenda item 7 above). b. 950206 Nested bibliodivs The group was not sure this request was within the scope of DocBook usage. ACTION: Adam to ask the submitter for more information. c. 955428 Add wordsize effectivity attribute (added to agenda) Sun and HP have found a need for a separate effectivity attribute to indicate computer processor word size. Most felt this was within the docbook domain, but there was concern about adding yet another global attribute, and if it was too specialized. There was also a desire for a better name. ACTION: Bob to add to next month's agenda. 11. Official release of other DocBook modules. ACTION: Norm to create official releases for Simplified DocBook 1.1, MathML, and others that are dependent on DocBook 4.3. ************************************* Meeting adjourned. ************************************* The following RFEs are awaiting action items 413389 Enhance METHODNAME and VARNAME (Norm, generic linking) 431411 RFE 70: add generic linking capability (Norm) 522552 Add title attribute to element (Mike, annotations) 541444 caption in mediaobjectco (closed?) (Dick) 565637 Associate non-inline image with link (Norm, generic linking) 574880 Add annotation element (Mike) 623524 (Re)Consider "choicelist" markup (Mike) The following RFEs are identified as V6.0 or later 531851 Remove inline person name elements 532088 Remove RevHistory from qandaentry - --- [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200404/msg00008.html [2] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200404/msg00032.html